Packet #10974347 Success

TRACEROUTE_APP packet from nesk8 (1358) to PsoyMesh_02 (mt02)

4
Total Receptions
4
Unique Gateways
7
Hop Count
107
Payload Bytes
Packet Information
Database ID: 10974347
Mesh Packet ID: 0x7da10e9e
Used for correlation across gateways
Timestamp: 2026-03-02 22:09:25 UTC
From Node: nesk8 (1358)
To Node: PsoyMesh_02 (mt02)
Success: Processed
Protocol: TRACEROUTE_APP
Port: 70
Gateway: SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)
Channel: LongFast
RSSI: -111 dBm
SNR: -17.75 dBm
Hop Info: 7/7 hops
Start: 7, Limit: 0
Payload Data
Protocol: TRACEROUTE_APP
Size: 107 bytes
Decoded: Yes
Decoded Data:
Route Information
Route Path: Chyornaya b094 (b094) → a8cc → rz3dvp (yuri) → 50_BMG (50) → shaggy swim (mhzp) → Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka) → ZenitNode (ZN_N) → SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)
Hop Count: 7 hops
Status: Incomplete - Final destination not reached
SNR Towards: -15.5 dB -11.5 dB -17.0 dB -8.75 dB -5.75 dB -11.0 dB 5.25 dB -17.75 dB
Route Visualization

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Traceroute Steps
Hop From Node To Node Distance SNR (dB) Direction Analysis
1 nesk8 (1358) Chyornaya b094 (b094) Unknown -15.5 dB Origin Hops
2 Chyornaya b094 (b094) a8cc Unknown -11.5 dB Relay Hops
3 a8cc rz3dvp (yuri) Unknown -17.0 dB Relay Hops
4 rz3dvp (yuri) 50_BMG (50) Unknown -8.75 dB Relay Hops
5 50_BMG (50) shaggy swim (mhzp) Unknown -5.75 dB Relay Hops
6 shaggy swim (mhzp) Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka) 6.48 km -11.0 dB Relay Hops
7 Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka) ZenitNode (ZN_N) 5.83 km 5.25 dB Relay Hops
8 ZenitNode (ZN_N) SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8) 14.96 km -17.75 dB Relay Hops
Traceroute incomplete - Final destination not reached
Total Forward Distance
27.27 km
Combined Traceroute Graph
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Raw Packet Analysis
Complete field breakdown and MQTT privacy/exposure analysis
Packet Structure
MQTT Packet Flow:
ServiceEnvelope (MQTT layer) → MeshPacket (Mesh layer) → Decoded Payload (Application data)
Total Size:107 bytes
Gateway:!efffff02
Channel:LongFast
Payload Type:TRACEROUTE_APP
Hop Count:7 / 7
Privacy Summary
Exposure Level:
Direct Message
Privacy Features:
✓ Direct LoRa transmission (not via MQTT)
✓ Acknowledgment requested
+ 2 more...
Exposure Risks:
⚠ Default channel - no encryption
⚠ Packet visible to MQTT subscribers
+ 2 more...
MQTT ServiceEnvelope Fields

MQTT ServiceEnvelope contains the MeshPacket plus routing metadata

FieldValue
gateway_id !efffff02
Node ID format
channel_id LongFast
Default public channel
packet MeshPacket (107 bytes)
Contains the actual mesh network packet
MeshPacket Fields

Core mesh packet with routing and payload information

FieldValueType
from 145560408
Source node ID 		uint32
to 1770145924
Target node ID 		uint32
decoded.portnum 70
TRACEROUTE_APP 		enum
decoded.payload_length 107 bytes size
hop_limit Not set uint32
hop_start 7
Initial hop limit 		uint32
hops_taken 7
Calculated: hop_start - hop_limit 		derived
rx_rssi -111.0 dBm
Signal strength at gateway 		int32
rx_snr -17.75 dB
Signal quality at gateway 		float
rx_time 1772478564
Receive timestamp 		fixed32
via_mqtt False
Direct LoRa transmission 		bool
want_ack True
Acknowledgment requested 		bool
priority Not set enum
delayed Not set enum
channel Not set uint32
pki_encrypted False
Standard encryption 		bool
next_hop Not set uint32
relay_node 255
Relay node ID 		uint32
tx_after Not set uint32
timestamp 1772478565.2988956
Unix timestamp 		uint32
MQTT Privacy & Exposure Analysis

Analysis of privacy features and exposure risks when packet is shared via MQTT

Exposure Level: Direct Message
Privacy Features:
  • ✓ Direct LoRa transmission (not via MQTT)
  • ✓ Acknowledgment requested
  • ✓ Targeted to specific node
  • ✓ Gateway node ID tracked
Exposure Risks:
  • ⚠ Default channel - no encryption
  • ⚠ Packet visible to MQTT subscribers
  • ⚠ Multi-hop path visible (7 hops)
  • ⚠ RF signal metrics exposed (location inference possible)
MQTT-Specific Fields
Want ack: True
Gateway ID: !efffff02
Signal Metrics: RSSI: -111.0 dBm
SNR: -17.75 dB
Complete Payload Analysis

Detailed breakdown of all payload fields and decoded data

Payload Metadata:
Protocol:TRACEROUTE_APP
Size:107 bytes
Decoded: Yes
Complete Payload Data (JSON):
{ "route_nodes": [ 2896933012, 1315809484, 1770303540, 3679549540, 3679993408, 313595084, 80111360, 4026531586 ], "snr_towards": [ -15.5, -11.5, -17.0, -8.75, -5.75, -11.0, 5.25, -17.75 ], "route_back": [], "snr_back": [], "route_node_names": { "3679993408": "shaggy swim (mhzp)", "80111360": "ZenitNode (ZN_N)", "4026531586": "SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)", "3679549540": "50_BMG (50)", "1770145924": "PsoyMesh_02 (mt02)", "1315809484": "a8cc", "313595084": "Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka)", "2896933012": "Chyornaya b094 (b094)", "1770303540": "rz3dvp (yuri)", "145560408": "nesk8 (1358)" }, "traceroute_packet": { "packet_data": { "id": 10974347, "timestamp": 1772478565.2988956, "from_node_id": 145560408, "to_node_id": 1770145924, "portnum": 70, "portnum_name": "TRACEROUTE_APP", "gateway_id": "!efffff02", "channel_id": "LongFast", "mesh_packet_id": 2107707038, "rssi": -111, "snr": -17.75, "hop_limit": 0, "hop_start": 7, "payload_length": 107, "processed_successfully": 1, "raw_payload": "0a2094b0abaccca86d4e34b08469647851db403e58dbcc14b1120067c60402ffffef1247c2ffffffffffffffff01d2ffffffffffffffff01bcffffffffffffffff01ddffffffffffffffff01e9ffffffffffffffff01d4ffffffffffffffff0115b9ffffffffffffffff01", "via_mqtt": 0, "want_ack": 1, "priority": 0, "delayed": 0, "channel_index": null, "rx_time": 1772478564, "pki_encrypted": 0, "next_hop": 0, "relay_node": 255, "tx_after": 0, "timestamp_str": "2026-03-02 22:09:25", "hop_count": 7, "has_payload": true, "success": 1, "from_node_name": "nesk8 (1358)", "to_node_name": "PsoyMesh_02 (mt02)", "gateway_name": "SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)", "gateway_location": { "node_id": 4026531586, "latitude": 55.78155, "longitude": 37.48584, "altitude": 18, "timestamp": 1772494825.0526576, "timestamp_str": "2026-03-03 02:40:25", "display_name": "SYSXX YGW8", "long_name": "SYSXX YGW8", "short_name": "SXY8", "hw_model": "HELTEC_V4" } }, "resolve_names": true, "packet_id": 10974347, "from_node_id": 145560408, "to_node_id": 1770145924, "timestamp": 1772478565.2988956, "gateway_id": "!efffff02", "raw_payload": "0a2094b0abaccca86d4e34b08469647851db403e58dbcc14b1120067c60402ffffef1247c2ffffffffffffffff01d2ffffffffffffffff01bcffffffffffffffff01ddffffffffffffffff01e9ffffffffffffffff01d4ffffffffffffffff0115b9ffffffffffffffff01", "hop_limit": 0, "hop_start": 7, "from_node_name": "nesk8 (1358)", "to_node_name": "!69824884", "route_data": { "route_nodes": [ 2896933012, 1315809484, 1770303540, 3679549540, 3679993408, 313595084, 80111360, 4026531586 ], "snr_towards": [ -15.5, -11.5, -17.0, -8.75, -5.75, -11.0, 5.25, -17.75 ], "route_back": [], "snr_back": [] }, "forward_path": { "path_type": "forward", "node_ids": [ 145560408, 2896933012, 1315809484, 1770303540, 3679549540, 3679993408, 313595084, 80111360, 4026531586 ], "node_names": [ "nesk8 (1358)", "Chyornaya b094 (b094)", "a8cc", "rz3dvp (yuri)", "50_BMG (50)", "shaggy swim (mhzp)", "Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka)", "ZenitNode (ZN_N)", "SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)" ], "snr_values": [ -15.5, -11.5, -17.0, -8.75, -5.75, -11.0, 5.25, -17.75 ], "hops": [ { "hop_number": 1, "from_node_id": 145560408, "to_node_id": 2896933012, "from_node_name": "nesk8 (1358)", "to_node_name": "Chyornaya b094 (b094)", "snr": -15.5, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 2, "from_node_id": 2896933012, "to_node_id": 1315809484, "from_node_name": "Chyornaya b094 (b094)", "to_node_name": "a8cc", "snr": -11.5, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 3, "from_node_id": 1315809484, "to_node_id": 1770303540, "from_node_name": "a8cc", "to_node_name": "rz3dvp (yuri)", "snr": -17.0, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 4, "from_node_id": 1770303540, "to_node_id": 3679549540, "from_node_name": "rz3dvp (yuri)", "to_node_name": "50_BMG (50)", "snr": -8.75, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 5, "from_node_id": 3679549540, "to_node_id": 3679993408, "from_node_name": "50_BMG (50)", "to_node_name": "shaggy swim (mhzp)", "snr": -5.75, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 6, "from_node_id": 3679993408, "to_node_id": 313595084, "from_node_name": "shaggy swim (mhzp)", "to_node_name": "Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka)", "snr": -11.0, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": 6481.703078897753, "from_location_timestamp": 1772476809.250471, "to_location_timestamp": 1772476727.1079164, "from_location_age_warning": "from 0.5h ago", "to_location_age_warning": "from 0.5h ago" }, { "hop_number": 7, "from_node_id": 313595084, "to_node_id": 80111360, "from_node_name": "Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka)", "to_node_name": "ZenitNode (ZN_N)", "snr": 5.25, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": 5829.816570062262, "from_location_timestamp": 1772476727.1079164, "to_location_timestamp": 1772456091.7046294, "from_location_age_warning": "from 0.5h ago", "to_location_age_warning": "from 6.2h ago" }, { "hop_number": 8, "from_node_id": 80111360, "to_node_id": 4026531586, "from_node_name": "ZenitNode (ZN_N)", "to_node_name": "SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)", "snr": -17.75, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": 14958.694283774223, "from_location_timestamp": 1772456091.7046294, "to_location_timestamp": 1772449176.0128422, "from_location_age_warning": "from 6.2h ago", "to_location_age_warning": "from 8.2h ago" } ], "is_complete": false, "total_hops": 8 }, "return_path": null, "actual_rf_path": { "path_type": "forward_rf", "node_ids": [ 145560408, 2896933012, 1315809484, 1770303540, 3679549540, 3679993408, 313595084, 80111360, 4026531586 ], "node_names": [ "nesk8 (1358)", "Chyornaya b094 (b094)", "a8cc", "rz3dvp (yuri)", "50_BMG (50)", "shaggy swim (mhzp)", "Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka)", "ZenitNode (ZN_N)", "SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)" ], "snr_values": [ -15.5, -11.5, -17.0, -8.75, -5.75, -11.0, 5.25, -17.75 ], "hops": [ { "hop_number": 1, "from_node_id": 145560408, "to_node_id": 2896933012, "from_node_name": "nesk8 (1358)", "to_node_name": "Chyornaya b094 (b094)", "snr": -15.5, "direction": "forward_rf", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 2, "from_node_id": 2896933012, "to_node_id": 1315809484, "from_node_name": "Chyornaya b094 (b094)", "to_node_name": "a8cc", "snr": -11.5, "direction": "forward_rf", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 3, "from_node_id": 1315809484, "to_node_id": 1770303540, "from_node_name": "a8cc", "to_node_name": "rz3dvp (yuri)", "snr": -17.0, "direction": "forward_rf", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 4, "from_node_id": 1770303540, "to_node_id": 3679549540, "from_node_name": "rz3dvp (yuri)", "to_node_name": "50_BMG (50)", "snr": -8.75, "direction": "forward_rf", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 5, "from_node_id": 3679549540, "to_node_id": 3679993408, "from_node_name": "50_BMG (50)", "to_node_name": "shaggy swim (mhzp)", "snr": -5.75, "direction": "forward_rf", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 6, "from_node_id": 3679993408, "to_node_id": 313595084, "from_node_name": "shaggy swim (mhzp)", "to_node_name": "Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka)", "snr": -11.0, "direction": "forward_rf", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": 6481.703078897753, "from_location_timestamp": 1772476809.250471, "to_location_timestamp": 1772476727.1079164, "from_location_age_warning": "from 0.5h ago", "to_location_age_warning": "from 0.5h ago" }, { "hop_number": 7, "from_node_id": 313595084, "to_node_id": 80111360, "from_node_name": "Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka)", "to_node_name": "ZenitNode (ZN_N)", "snr": 5.25, "direction": "forward_rf", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": 5829.816570062262, "from_location_timestamp": 1772476727.1079164, "to_location_timestamp": 1772456091.7046294, "from_location_age_warning": "from 0.5h ago", "to_location_age_warning": "from 6.2h ago" }, { "hop_number": 8, "from_node_id": 80111360, "to_node_id": 4026531586, "from_node_name": "ZenitNode (ZN_N)", "to_node_name": "SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)", "snr": -17.75, "direction": "forward_rf", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": 14958.694283774223, "from_location_timestamp": 1772456091.7046294, "to_location_timestamp": 1772449176.0128422, "from_location_age_warning": "from 6.2h ago", "to_location_age_warning": "from 8.2h ago" } ], "is_complete": false, "total_hops": 8 } }, "has_return_path": false, "is_complete": false, "forward_path_display": "nesk8 (1358) → Chyornaya b094 (b094) → a8cc → rz3dvp (yuri) → 50_BMG (50) → shaggy swim (mhzp) → Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka) → ZenitNode (ZN_N) → SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)", "return_path_display": null, "actual_rf_path_display": "nesk8 (1358) → Chyornaya b094 (b094) → a8cc → rz3dvp (yuri) → 50_BMG (50) → shaggy swim (mhzp) → Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka) → ZenitNode (ZN_N) → SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)", "forward_hops": [ { "hop_number": 1, "from_node_id": 145560408, "to_node_id": 2896933012, "from_node_name": "nesk8 (1358)", "to_node_name": "Chyornaya b094 (b094)", "snr": -15.5, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 2, "from_node_id": 2896933012, "to_node_id": 1315809484, "from_node_name": "Chyornaya b094 (b094)", "to_node_name": "a8cc", "snr": -11.5, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 3, "from_node_id": 1315809484, "to_node_id": 1770303540, "from_node_name": "a8cc", "to_node_name": "rz3dvp (yuri)", "snr": -17.0, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 4, "from_node_id": 1770303540, "to_node_id": 3679549540, "from_node_name": "rz3dvp (yuri)", "to_node_name": "50_BMG (50)", "snr": -8.75, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 5, "from_node_id": 3679549540, "to_node_id": 3679993408, "from_node_name": "50_BMG (50)", "to_node_name": "shaggy swim (mhzp)", "snr": -5.75, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": null, "from_location_timestamp": null, "to_location_timestamp": null, "from_location_age_warning": "No location data available", "to_location_age_warning": "No location data available" }, { "hop_number": 6, "from_node_id": 3679993408, "to_node_id": 313595084, "from_node_name": "shaggy swim (mhzp)", "to_node_name": "Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka)", "snr": -11.0, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": 6481.703078897753, "from_location_timestamp": 1772476809.250471, "to_location_timestamp": 1772476727.1079164, "from_location_age_warning": "from 0.5h ago", "to_location_age_warning": "from 0.5h ago" }, { "hop_number": 7, "from_node_id": 313595084, "to_node_id": 80111360, "from_node_name": "Mukka Pukkinen8 (Muka)", "to_node_name": "ZenitNode (ZN_N)", "snr": 5.25, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": 5829.816570062262, "from_location_timestamp": 1772476727.1079164, "to_location_timestamp": 1772456091.7046294, "from_location_age_warning": "from 0.5h ago", "to_location_age_warning": "from 6.2h ago" }, { "hop_number": 8, "from_node_id": 80111360, "to_node_id": 4026531586, "from_node_name": "ZenitNode (ZN_N)", "to_node_name": "SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8)", "snr": -17.75, "direction": "forward", "is_target_hop": false, "distance_meters": 14958.694283774223, "from_location_timestamp": 1772456091.7046294, "to_location_timestamp": 1772449176.0128422, "from_location_age_warning": "from 6.2h ago", "to_location_age_warning": "from 8.2h ago" } ], "return_hops": [], "total_forward_distance": 27270.213932734237, "total_return_distance": null }
Complete Protobuf Decode (JSON)
{ "service_envelope": { "gateway_id": "!efffff02", "channel_id": "LongFast", "packet": "MeshPacket (see mesh_packet below)" }, "mesh_packet": { "from": 145560408, "to": 1770145924, "id": 2107707038, "rx_time": 1772478564, "rx_snr": -17.75, "rx_rssi": -111, "hop_limit": 0, "hop_start": 7, "via_mqtt": 0, "want_ack": 1, "priority": 0, "delayed": 0, "channel_index": null, "pki_encrypted": 0, "next_hop": 0, "relay_node": 255, "tx_after": 0, "decoded": { "portnum": 70, "payload": "0a2094b0abaccca86d4e34b08469647851db403e58dbcc14b1120067c60402ffffef1247c2ffffffffffffffff01d2ffffffffffffffff01bcffffffffffffffff01ddffffffffffffffff01e9ffffffffffffffff01d4ffffffffffffffff0115b9ffffffffffffffff01", "want_response": null, "dest": null, "source": null, "request_id": null, "reply_id": null, "emoji": null, "parsed_payload": { "route": [ 2896933012, 1315809484, 1770303540, 3679549540, 3679993408, 313595084, 80111360, 4026531586 ], "snr_towards": [ -62, -46, -68, -35, -23, -44, 21, -71 ], "type": "protobuf", "portnum": "TRACEROUTE_APP", "message_class": "RouteDiscovery" } } } }
Raw Packet Data (107 bytes)
0a2094b0abaccca86d4e34b08469647851db403e58dbcc14b1120067c60402ffffef1247c2ffffffffffffffff01d2ffffffffffffffff01bcffffffffffffffff01ddffffffffffffffff01e9ffffffffffffffff01d4ffffffffffffffff0115b9ffffffffffffffff01
Hex Analysis:
Size:107 bytes
Format:Protobuf (Protocol Buffers)
Encoding:Binary with varint and length-delimited fields
This is the raw protobuf-encoded payload as received from MQTT. The structure follows the Meshtastic protobuf schema definitions.
All Receptions
All gateways that received this packet
Correlation: Using Mesh Packet ID
Reception Locations

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Gateway Time Offset RSSI SNR Hops Channel Timestamp Actions
SYSXX YGW8 (SXY8) Primary 0.000s
Reference 		-111.0 dBm -17.75 dB 7 LongFast 2026-03-02 22:09:25 Current
Zamkad8 (zmkd) -860.399s
Before 		-127.0 dBm -18.00 dB 5 LongFast 2026-03-02 21:55:04 View
SYSXX BGW8 (SXB8) +417.691s
After 		-121.0 dBm -13.75 dB 7 LongFast 2026-03-02 22:16:22 View
Aster-02 (AST2) +417.748s
After 		-83.0 dBm 3.75 dB 7 LongFast 2026-03-02 22:16:23 View
4

Total Receptions

4

Unique Gateways